Neutrinos are still travelling FASTER than Light, as shown in New Experiments by OPERA/CERN.

Looks like we need someone more genius than Einstein to come up with revolutionary theory that includes these results of the neutrinos.


Results from a second experiment uphold the observation that neutrinos are moving faster than the speed of light. The OPERA collaboration, which first reported the superluminal neutrinos in September, has rerun the experiment and detected 20 new neutrinos breaking Einstein’s theoretical limit.

The findings are heartening to anyone hoping to see a major physics revolution in their lifetime. But scientists, as ever, are being cautious, and it will take an independent replication of the results by another team to even begin convincing many of them.

“This eliminates one major class of systematic errors, and it’s impressive for the OPERA team to have mounted in a short period of time,” said physicist Robert Plunkett of Fermilab National Laboratory in Batavia, Illinois. “However, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t an error somewhere else in their system.”

Neutrinos are subatomic particles with hardly any mass that are able to fly through most matter as if it weren’t there. Despite their negligible mass, if they were somehow able to exceed the speed-of-light limit set by Einstein’s theory of special relativity, it would present a major head-scratcher to modern physicists.

The OPERA team’s detector at Gran Sasso National Laboratory in Italy had previously detected neutrinos produced in bunches at CERN arriving 60 nanoseconds earlier than light speed would allow. The tricky part is that these bunches took a good length of time to produce — much longer than 60 nanoseconds — so the researchers had to be careful with their analysis. If they thought a neutrino was coming from the start of the bunch when it was actually coming from the end, then that neutrino would not actually be moving faster than light.

In their first experiment, the OPERA team used statistical analysis to show this situation was unlikely, but other scientists were not completely persuaded. The new experiment produced neutrinos in bunches over just three nanoseconds, far shorter than the faster-than-light anomaly. The results were the same: Neutrinos arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than the speed of light. The findings were robust enough that members of the OPERA collaboration who had refused to sign on to the first paper were now willing to put their name on the new one.

But a great deal of scrutiny remains.

“I can now say that the probability of the result being correct has increased from 1 in a million to one in 100 thousand,” wrote physicist Philip Gibbs on the viXra log (though he stressed that those numbers were merely illustrative and not actual calculated values).

Tommaso Dorigo, a physicist at CERN, noted on his blog that there are still other possible sources of error. For instance, the OPERA collaboration’s clock might not have a fine enough resolution to determine exactly when the neutrinos arrived. “The measurement therefore is only a ‘partial’ confirmation of the earlier result: It is consistent with it, but could be just as wrong as the other,” he wrote.

Ultimately, the only thing that would convince many in the field is if another team upholds the findings in an independent experiment. Plunkett, co-spokesperson for the Main Injector Neutrino Oscillation Search (MINOS) experiment at Fermilab, says that his collaboration expects to have results checking the OPERA findings in the spring of 2012.

[from Wired]

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    • dl

      “The speed of light is constant as compared to
      the every frame force field where is has been measured. Cross frame speed
      identification is mathematical. Even Einstein wrote w=c-v which addresses cross
      frame speed of light as additive. He said if w=c-v is correct, the concept of
      universal constant speed of light is wrong. When we measure the speed of light,
      we are measuring it as compared to a medium such as a frame’s force field. The
      earth has a frame force field. Sound and light are measured as compared to the
      earth frame force field. A moving train or car has a frame force field. Sound
      and light are measured as compared to the car or train force field. As long as
      the light and sound is inside the car frame force field, it is constant and not
      shifted compared to the stationary emitter in the car. When light or sound
      leaves the car frame force field, it is shifted when viewed in the earth frame
      force field. This shows that light and sound is relative to the fame force
      field. Motion of the car as an emitter in the earth frame force field results in
      shift. In addition to shift, light and sound change speed when they move from
      the car frame force field to the earth frame force field. Cross frame force
      field speed of light calculations have been done with solar eclipse photos and
      data which show the refraction of light as it changes from going “c” compared to
      the open space frame force field to going “c” compared to the sun frame force
      field. The Galilean transformation is correct for cross frame force field
      calculations of light speed. This is explained in Don E. Sprague’s Classical
      Hierarchy Relativity at his complex relativity site. Einstein built on the
      Lorentz contraction which is a contradiction with simultaneous shrinkage of the
      ladder and the garage as viewed by the opposing observers. Einstein was correct
      about w=c-v. He was wrong when he addressed his dilemma with section 9 of his
      paper where he says simultaneous is not simultaneous because a person on a
      moving train is not capable of knowing the truth of the train motion. He claims
      a known mistake is not a mistake so time is variable. This results in a known
      Einstein fundamental singularity flaw with time ending. In reality, simultaneous
      is simultaneous regardless of the skills or knowledge of an observer. Time is
      constant. Light is constant as compered to the medium or force field where it is
      measured. Light change from being constant compared to one frame to be constant
      compared to another frame.”

    • Anonymous

      Hey, where is that quoted from? I am interested to read more in-depth on that.

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